Our Meetings Are Held Thursday Nights at 7:00PM at the Thurmont Scouting, Inc. Building, 26 Elm Street
Q: If 5 scouts from one patrol attend a camp out what are the sleeping arrangements?
A: The scouts use 3 tents. In tent #1, two scouts sleep and store their gear. In tent #2, three scouts sleep. In tent #3, the three scouts store their gear.
Q:What if I am the only one from my patrol that shows up for a camp out?
A:In this case you will be assigned to another patrol for this event and will sleep with them. Next time, please encourage your patrol mates to participate!
Q:Can I go for a walk by myself?
A:NO, while on troop outings you are to be with a buddy at all times, this includes trips to the restroom.
Q:Do I need to be with my buddy to walk around the Patrol campsite?
A:No, only when you are leaving the Patrol area or after “lights out”.
Q:My father/mother is coming to the camp out, can I sleep with them?
A:No. While BSA policy does not expressly forbid this, it is discouraged. Troop policy is the Patrol method and you can not support or experience what your patrol does if you are not with your patrol.
One question that will come up almost immediately is "What equipment does my Scout need?" The troop is well supplied with equipment for most outings. The Scouts will need a few items of personal gear - we suggest the following: a Sierra (or similar) cup that can also be used as a bowl, a spoon made of Lexan®, a modest sized plastic insulated mug, a sleeping bag or blankets and a ground pad (preferably a closed cell foam pad, not an air mattress), a flashlight (the two AA cell sized maglite is ideal) or headlamp and the Scout's personal hygiene kit (toothbrush, comb, etc.). We don't recommend that the Scouts use down sleeping bags, as they are expensive and will fail when wet - the Scouts will do fine with polyester or similar fiber bags. A mummy-style sleeping bag with hollow polyester fiber filling (Hollofill II or Polarguard for example) that is rated to 20 or 25 degrees will work well year round in Maryland. Except for the sleeping bag, these items are very inexpensive and all can be obtained at Walmart, Dick's, Target or similar stores. Please see any of the adult leaders if you have questions. Consult the Scout Handbook or Scout Fieldbook for complete information on the right equipment for most types of camping. For most camp outs, each Scout will need to bring a sleeping bag and pad, good hiking shoes or boots, and arrange to share a tent with another Scout.
Scouts BSA regulations require Scouts always maintain the “Buddy System”. This means that at all times they will be with one or more Scouts, even at night while sleeping. Troop 270 has a good supply of tents for Scouts. Adult leadership may utilize other tenting equipment but Scouts will use Troop supplied gear.
On most camp outs, especially those designated as "backpacking", the Scout will need to bring his equipment in a backpack; for new Scouts and for occasional other camp outs, a duffel bag is satisfactory. Troop 270 recommends that parents not spend a great deal of money on equipment until the Scout gains some experience. For the first year or so of Scouting, many Troop members’ borrow the equipment they need. This provides them with the opportunity to become familiar with different types of gear and minimizes the expenditure.
See the section later in this Handbook for a Camping Checklist. A similar checklist is found in most camping guides and in the Boy Scout Fieldbook.
It takes a lot of equipment to run a Boy Scout Troop. Troop equipment is the responsibility of the Troop Committee who assigns a member to do this job. The scouts have an appointed Quartermaster to keep track of the equipment and furthermore, each Patrol has its own quartermaster whom is responsible for their Patrol’s equipment. All scouts must be responsible for the troop equipment they use, and care for this equipment properly. All precautions are taken for the safe use of all cutting tools. No new scout may use a cutting too of any kind until he has received his Tot’n Chip Training and can demonstrate safe use of cutting tools. Carrying of matches or cigarette lighters is not allowed until the scout has eartned Fire n' Chit.
Troop 270 is well equipped with tents, stoves and lanterns, 20lb. Propane fuel equipment, patrol cooking gear, dining tarps, patrol boxes, food and drink coolers and a trailer for hauling the equipment to our activity and camping locations. Troop ownership of this equipment saves the individual scouts from having to purchase this equipment, but it carries with it the responsibility of each scout taking care and maintaining this equipment for use by future members of Troop 270.
A series of rules pertaining to Troop 270 owned equipment has been established:
A certain amount of personal equipment is needed by each scout for participation in the camping and outdoor activities conducted by the troop. The Scouting, BSA Handbook does an excellent job reviewing equipment that each scout should have. The scout should use the handbook as a resource. The cost of the personal equipment can be high, but if the scout and parents focus on the necessities and gradually add to these, before long a scout will be well equipped. Scouts need to be responsible for their own equipment and at times will need to carry their gear for long distances. Scouts are encouraged to bring along equipment that they will need and not burden themselves with gear that they won’t need. Parents should help the scouts pack for a trip but do not do it for them! Scouts need to know what they have and what they don’t, where their gear is and how to repack it when the trip is over and time to go home. The Scoutmaster and Adult Leaders can’t do it for them and they should not expect it. Scouts need to learn to be responsible for their own belonging and how to take care of their gear! The scouts need to have their name and phone number on everything that they take with them.
There is also a list of prohibited items:
Scouting differs from Cub Scouting in a number of ways. One is that in Cub Scouts, the adults are the leaders, while in Scouts, the Scouts are the leaders. Another is that in Scouts, parents don't have to attend camp outs. While we encourage parents to be involved with the Troop, and you are invited to attend any camp outs, please make sure that you stay home for one or two of your scout's first few camp outs. They need to adjust to the idea that when they need help, they should get that help from their patrol leader, not from Mom or Dad. And they need to start developing independence and being responsible for their own advancement, which will happen faster if they find themselves in situations where they have to depend on themselves and the Patrol/Troop infrastructure. Your Scout will tend to come to you and ask things like "when are we going to eat?" or "how do I set up my tent?" The appropriate response from a parent (and the response he'll get from any of the adult leaders) is "Why are you asking me that? Go ask your patrol leader."
For the first few ranks (Scout to First Class), most advancement happens on camp outs. It is imperative that Scouts bring their Scout handbooks along, so that advancement achievements can be signed off. Please make sure your scout's book has their name in it, so when it gets misplaced we can see that it is returned to them! In Cub Scouting, parents sign off for many advancement requirements. In Scouts, parents can't sign for anything (except for merit badge requirements, and then only if you are a registered and trained merit badge counselor for that merit badge, even then it is frowned upon unless there are no other counselors for that merit badge or the badge is being done in a group setting). In Troop 270, the older Scouts are supposed to teach scout skills to the younger Scouts and ensure that the skills have been learned by testing them. Once that happens, then a scout can have the skill signed off by a qualified and approved scout or adult leader. The patrol leader is ultimately responsible for advancement within the patrol, but can and should delegate to any qualified Scout to teach skills. Qualified means that the Scout signing off must already have the rank being worked on, and in fact should be a Star scout or higher rank. Thus, a Star Scout could sign off on a requirement for a Tenderfoot Scout working on his 2nd Class rank. This is an important responsibility, and one that represents a beginning of the Scout's leadership career.
New Scouts should begin immediately working on their Scout rank. It isn't hard, but will require them to participate in at least a couple of outings, and it will give them an idea of how the advancement system works. Once they have completed the requirements, they will need to arrange for a Scoutmaster conference. There is no Board of Review for the Scout Rank. Once achieved, the Scout should start on the Tenderfoot rank. With the Tenderfoot rank and there-after, the Scout will need to get a Scoutmaster conference and a Board of Review after completing the ranks requirements, although the Scoutmaster conference may be done before completing all requirements. The board is not an ordeal, rather, it is a chance for the adult leadership of the troop to get to know the Scout, help him set goals for his Scouting career, and generally to make sure that things are working well for him within the troop. Boards of Review are scheduled as requested, but usually need a week's notice to arrange for 3 committee members to sit for it. Boards of review can also be convened on camp outs when appropriate. The Scout should be in uniform for both the Scoutmaster conference and board of review.
It is important to know and understand that the Scout can and should begin working on 2nd Class and 1st Class requirements immediately - there is no need to wait until achieving Tenderfoot. The scout should be looking ahead and taking advantage of opportunities to do things like cooking over an open fire or other requirements for which opportunities may not be frequent. The scout can also begin working on merit badges at any time - summer camp is a great opportunity to get started on this. We find that once Scouts reach Tenderfoot, they understand the system and will advance on to Second Class and First Class without problems, but occasional parental encouragement and reminders are always good.
Back to the camp out. You already know they'll need their handbook, and will need to think a little before they go about what requirements they might be able to achieve on the trip. They'll need a few basic items as mentioned before (sierra cup, spoon, mug, flashlight, toothbrush). Of course, they'll need clothes. Scouts are required to wear their class A uniforms during the travel phase of any trip. Usually, when we reach the camp or trail head, the Scouts will change into something more trip appropriate, like a troop t-shirt, and will leave the khaki shirt in the car. Typically, for Friday evening travel, they'll need to bring a sack dinner that can be eaten in the car or on arrival - the troop typically does not attempt to cook on Friday nights, although most times snacks ("cracker barrel") will be served. Other than this, they should not bring along any personal food or drink (other than water) of any kind unless specifically told to do so. Scouts are supposed to participate in their patrol's meal planning process (which is the time to speak up about any special food needs or preferences), and are expected to cook and eat with their patrol. There is an old Scouting saying "No Scout ever starved to death on a weekend camp out" although probably many thought they would. Of course, if a Scout has special dietary needs they should speak to the Scoutmaster about accommodations - this should be done well in advance of the camp out. Such requests made after food has been purchased for the trip probably cannot be accommodated.
They'll need at least one change of clothes. Possibly, they won't use them. Despite Mother's best wishes, they don't change clothes on outings very often. Clothes should be packed in waterproof bags - the sturdy large size Ziploc bags are ideal. Pack a day's change per bag, so that the Scout can grab one bag and have clean underwear, t-shirt, and socks. If you pack all the socks in one bag, all the shirts in another they'll all end up dumped on the floor of the tent while they search for a complete outfit. Don't forget to pack some kind of sleepwear (pajamas, gym shorts, or whatever they prefer, and if it is winter, extra dry socks in case they get wet and for sleeping). They'll probably want a small pillow too. The Ziploc thing is important - even in a properly set up tent there will frequently be condensation and wet places, and clothes will get wet if not protected. Pack the clothes in a duffle bag, a Rubbermaid "Action Packer" or anything else that is sturdy and will hold them all. A backpack is fine too but isn't required. Make sure your scout doesn't take too much stuff - it is common for new Scouts to overdose on the "be prepared" thing and to try to bring everything they own, just in case. Do make sure they bring warm clothing if there is any chance they could need it, and be certain that they bring rain gear (at least a poncho) on every trip, no matter what the forecast says. After a few trips, they'll probably know pretty much what they require and can be responsible for their own packing, but it is helpful for a parent to supervise packing or at least inspect the results for the first few trips. Please DO NOT pack for them!
We are blessed with a variety of good camping spots that are not very far away; so most troop travel is relatively short. Scouts are expected to be able to entertain themselves during longer travel, and the ideal mechanism is with a good book. Handheld electronic games are permitted as long as the Scout turns the sound off or uses headphones, but they must be left in the car. A deck of cards or a magnetic chess or checkerboard can also be a good choice if other Scouts in the car share the same interest.
All Scouts are expected to pitch in and help with camp chores - in fact; each patrol will have a duty roster with specific assignments for cooking, cleanup, and other camp work. The Scouts need to understand that this cooperation is what enables everyone to have free time for hiking, playing, fishing, and working on advancements. Your Scout will likely come home and talk about all the work they had to do, but hopefully they'll also talk about how much fun it was and how much they learned. If you get one without the other, please bring it to the attention of one of the adult leaders, so we can make sure all is well.
There are lots of good references available about camping skills and equipment. The Scout Handbook, which your Scout should already have, is a great starting place. See also the Scout Field Book and of course this Troop 270 Handbook.
That should be enough to help you be ready for his first trip. One last piece of advice: remind them to keep track of their camping trips with the troop AND sign up for the camping merit badge (get a "blue card") right now. The Camping merit badge requires 20 nights of camping, and is an Eagle-required badge. In about a year, they'll be trying to put together a list of his camping nights, and having some notes will help! As an additional note, a scout needs to be signed up for a merit badge to get credit for doing its requirements.
Troop 270 conducts a full program of camping activities year round. Camp outs are held at least 10 times each year. Consult the current calendar for dates. Except for special camp outs all activities are conducted using the Patrol Method as outlined later in this manual.
Camp outs feature competitive events in Scouting skills, campfires, camp wide games, advancement, worship services, special activities and tours, not to mention lots and lots of fun.
Part of the camping program is designed to teach Scouts how to deal with adversity such as bad weather. This requires participation. Campouts are held rain or shine. A Scout should be prepared to protect themself adequately from the elements. They receive instructions in these methods by regularly attending Scout meetings. Campouts are only canceled in the event of unsafe conditions.
Adult "coordinators" are assigned to each campout. They are responsible for insuring that all permission slips and other required forms are turned in, all fees are paid, and that there are adequate vehicles and seat belts to transport the Scouts to and from the campout. Coordinators are also expected to attend the campout to serve as adult leadership.
Medication Policy
Scouting BSA recognizes that many Scouts and adult leaders occasionally, or even routinely, take some form of prescription medication to alleviate the symptoms of any number of legitimate acute or chronic conditions. The possession and use of legally prescribed medications is acceptable within the guidelines of this policy.
Scouts should plan together so that most of the members like what is on the menu. If a Scout is not present when the menu is planned, he needs to be prepared to accept what is planned.
The Patrol is assigned a “Patrol Chuck Box” and other camping equipment, such as tents, by the Troop quartermaster. The Patrol’s equipment is only used by that patrol and must be maintained by that Patrol. After each campout, the Patrol and Troop quartermaster will conduct a Patrol equipment check. Missing, damaged or worn out items will be replaced using the Patrol’s dues fund.
Scouts should never bring their own food unless the troop camping plan calls for a special arrangement. For example, a "nose-bag" (sack lunch) may be needed for travel to a distant campout or for a first meal during winter camping months due to limited daylight or it is a wilderness survival or back-packing trip and it is called for.
If a Scout commits to come to a campout and then later becomes unable to attend, he should immediately notify his Patrol Leader so the shopping list can be modified. If the food has already been purchased, the Scout must pay the camp out fee. In other words, the Patrol should be able to plan on the Scout's participation.
The Patrol and Patrol Method is a central feature in accomplishing the aims of Scouting. Every effort is made by the adult leadership to encourage Patrol participation and identity. Patrol names that fit the spirit of Scouting are appropriate. It is critical that Scouts be happy in their Patrol and that they contribute to their Patrol.
Immediate problems need to be handled through the chain of command;
Ongoing/constant problems need to be discussed with any Asst. Scoutmaster or Scoutmaster. One of the most important ways of solving a problem is to know what the problem is. For this, it is imperative that the Scouts follow the chain of command. One of the goals of this Troop is that every Scout learns how to communicate and learn to solve problems with Scout leadership. This teaches them reliance on peers, decision-making, independence, and responsibility.
We Are Chartered By:
The Thurmont Lions Club
Our Council Is:
National Capital Area Council